Unraveled Podcast #6: Is Fasting a Scam? with Christian Yordanov

In this sponsor highlight episode of Unraveled, Miranda sits down with health coach and researcher Christian Yordanov for an honest, wide-ranging conversation about sustainable health, women’s hormones, and why popular trends like fasting and extreme carnivore diets often backfire—especially for women.Christian shares how his wife’s health struggles (repeated antibiotics, hormonal chaos, and chronic issues) sparked his deep dive into nutrition, supplementation, and longevity. He breaks down why intermittent fasting and low-carb approaches can stress the body, disrupt hormones, and lead to long-term problems, while advocating for a more balanced, sustainable approach focused on protein, smart carbs, mineral balance, and avoiding extremes.They also touch on:

  • Endometriosis, estrogen dominance, and progesterone support
  • The sustainability trap of restrictive diets (and why Miranda’s results improved with Christian’s program)
  • Autism, environmental toxins, vaccines, and the limits of conventional medicine
  • The power of the mind-body connection and plant medicine in healing
  • Why most health advice fails to think long-term (what happens at 60, 70, 80+?)

This is a refreshingly blunt, research-backed discussion from two people who have personally tested the extremes and come out the other side looking for real, livable solutions.Christian Yordanov helps people move beyond fads and build practical, personalized health strategies that actually last. If you’re tired of yo-yo dieting, hormonal chaos, or feeling like nothing sticks—this episode is for you.

For Christian’s Website: https://www.livelongerformula.com/

Transcript:

Hi everybody. We are here with Christian Yordanov. He is one of our speakers and this is something new that we are doing. This is a sponsor highlight with the intent of really showcasing in a dynamic way what people that we partner with are doing, why they do it, and why it’s important for you to know about it. We like to partner with people that we trust.

We like to partner with people that are highly recommended. And Christian was highly recommended by Charlie. And we kind of have a rule that if Charlie suggests somebody that it’s probably a good idea and just to go for it. So, Christian, how are you today? I’m great. Miranda, thank you for having me on. Yeah. Thanks for. Thanks for being open to this new way of doing things that we’re doing.

I do want to give a little bit of an intro that Christian came on as a speaker last year, again at Charlie suggestion, and I was seeing what he was talking about, and I was like, hey, you know, this is going to expose my own personal health issues a little bit, but I think it’s important. I’m like, hey, I just got diagnosed with probable endometriosis.

I’m suffering. I’m gaining weight. I don’t feel good. What do you think? And Christian came on and he gave me. He helped me quite a bit. I admit that I couldn’t stick to all of it, mostly because right as I started to have the ability to get into it and archipelago happened, and then after an archipelago happened. But what I will say is that the basis of it, because the supplements seem to be different for everybody, but the basis of it seems to be within the diet.

A good focus on protein, a focus on carbohydrates not being evil. And before the only way I was able to lose weight was going full carnivore. And.

A I don’t want to say a anti fasting thing, but it is kind of an anti fasting thing. And I just come out of this whole like I read fast like a girl because somebody told me to and I followed her diet super specifically. And I did her fasting schedule for six weeks and I gained two kilos and I felt like shit at the end of it.

And I was like, why the fuck part of in my life you felt like crap, And so you, you gained weight and you felt like crap, right? Wow. Yeah. And my period was like, of course, because my body was stressed. Yeah. It’s so frustrating because I see the kind of advice being given to to the women in, in that lady sort of circle on Instagram, on YouTube.

And it’s like, oh, my period is late. Can I continue this? Yep, yep. You can do. So it’s really frustrating to to see all of this because since basically late last year, I’ve been researching and writing my next book, which is all about why fasting is a terrible, terrible idea. Not just for longevity, not just for weight loss, but also it’s a terrible strategy to address most chronic health problems.

So I’m actually deep, deep, deep into it. And I’ll tell you, Miranda, I thought like, I would debunk myself by going through all the these, you know, dozens and hundreds of different studies in different areas. I thought I would eventually debunk myself and lose interest in writing the book because I don’t have enough evidence, and the evidence base is too strong.

And every like, every other day, I’m like, come down from the office, see my wife, I’m like, oh my God, honey, I found more crap about fasting. That’s really bad. So I really this is really grinding my gears when like women, especially like women of reproductive age, are basically instructed to starve themselves to better health to me. And I’ve spoken about this before in my podcast, that is an aspect of the depopulation agenda, but I don’t want to get too far ahead of myself.

Yeah, I remember you. I’m pretty sure you had a sign at that that was talking talking some smack on fasting, but I find that refreshing because if I had a dollar for every time somebody heard that I was having hormonal issues and stuff, and they told me to fast to get rid of them, I would be a very rich woman.

It is terrible, terrible thing. It’s like a panacea. Allegedly. It’s the panacea that will cure everything from cancer to diabetes and whatever else. And I’ll tell you, just today I was doing the final part of the one of the last chapters. We’re talking about the disease aspect and the amount of stuff I’ve been seeing on on that. I’ve been learning a lot about cancer and the fact that cancers not only not only can they run on other stuff other than glucose, like, you know, sugar because like, starve the cancer of the sugar.

Well, first of all, cancers, they can run on fatty acids. They can also run on amines. They can use some amino acids right from protein, which the body is hasn’t. You have fat, you have protein and on the body. So the whole sort of starved cancer away is a complete fairy tale. And even what I saw today is there’s even evidence that cancer, at least some tumors, can use ketones.

So it’s like the whole thing is a sham, the star of cancer, of sugar. And, you know, sugar feeds cancer. Because even if you do fast, like you always, that’s this is a huge myth that you just switch to fat burning and ketosis. But no, you will. No matter how deep into a fast you are, you will always produce a baseline of glucose, which happens by you degenerating your bones and your muscles and your joints and your organs and the the protein of that, the amino acids of that then gets turned into glucose, at least some of them do.

So like and this is what most people believe. And I’m like, whoa. And this is what big doctors, big health influencers are preaching. Like, how could we be so far off base here? It’s kind of kind of strange. The interesting thing is, like I used to edit the kernel for podcast because I used to be a big proponent of that, and I used to edit the kernel for podcasts for Sean Baker.

So I was watching a lot of these success stories, and one of the things that I was noticing was there were quite a few people that were saying that like, oh, I went carnivore. And then my cancer went into remission. But the biggest thing that I was noticing with these people is they were highly inflamed, eating a lot of shitty foods.

So when you just pull everything out, you’re just eating clean beef and salt. It would make sense, right? But then on the opposite side of the spectrum, and I’m curious as to what you think of this, this therapy, my partner, he is really into the therapy. And the growth of therapy is literally the opposite of the carnivore diet, and yet has people just the same talking about miraculous results, kicking cancer.

Like, what are your thoughts on that? Well, I think that’s the thing. Like literally combining the two is probably somewhere in the middle. So not like not like the 3 pounds of beef a day. But you know, depending on the person, a pound of beef, maybe some other kind of nutrition animal based and then clean organic juices for, you know, with, you know, lots of stuff that’s going to give you structured water, potassium, vitamin C, maybe some other minerals, some flavonoids and stuff.

And of course the salt is really, really great. So like and of course the coffee animals and so on. So just combine like that’s the thing about it is like we’re humans, we’re so tribal for whatever reason. Like you got to pick a team. It’s like we’re almost forced to pick a team. I vegan, am I going to be a pest and am I going to be carnivore?

But there’s good elements in all of it. So I think I think but what you said is key. Like I, I’ve, I’ve done carnivore and I’ve done plant based vegan. So both ends of the spectrum in between and what I found is especially with my clients, is when they have a good experience with plant based or carnivore or keto or a few other diets.

It’s usually coming from a very kind of, you know, Western sort of standard American type diet. So when you go from that to almost anything, it may even be fruits. There’s this honeymoon period that can last weeks to months to even a couple of years, especially with younger people. So we then ascribe, and it’s the same story with with intermittent fasting, because that also pushes us to do more healthy behaviors.

Right? So in all those cases, the we then ascribe the, the thing we’re doing to it being magical, whereas what we did is we removed the glorified toxic slop, as I call it, the glorified poison that a lot of us are eating. And then the another beautiful thing that happens for many people is because of that new thing we’re doing and removing the crap.

We also lose weight. But so here’s the thing. We then ascribe the benefits of the fasting, the carnivore diet or whatever to to all how how amazing we feel. But the thing is, a lot of what’s driving people’s improvements in like biomarkers and health and inflammation and whatever else, how they feel is actually the weight loss. So if you then take, let’s say, take weight loss with improving the diet, some exercise, reducing calories and then fasting in all those cases, the thing driving the benefits people experience would be the weight loss and of course cleaning up the diet if they were to do so.

So then we so what we are doing right now, a lot of us out there and I was doing the same thing is we ascribe again to repeat it, we ascribe the benefits of an intervention, be it fasting again, carnivore, whatever, as the benefits of the intervention, where it was either eating less food and losing some weight, which, you know, lowers your blood pressure.

You snore less, your partner less. You know, you have sex more, you feel better about yourself. You get compliments on your looks. It feeds this sort of virtuous cycle where you want to do more healthy things. So that happens. And then of course, cleaning up the diet, you feel better being less poisoned, you know, all that. So we can do all of those things without doing an extreme diet or without starving ourselves.

That’s kind of what I think. The main thing that will tie my book together when it’s out, hopefully by the time Libra happens, is that if we just do those things, you know, lose weight in a healthy way without stressing the body by cleaning up the diet, maybe exercising more, getting our hormones or gut or liver, everything working better.

We’re going to get probably most, if not all of the benefits of, let’s say, a fasting routine. That’s kind of the thing. So those are the things we should be focusing, not elevating our stress hormones for 18 hours a day or for five days at a time, which degenerates us and messes with our hormones. That’s kind of the idea there.

Yeah. So I, I’m going to talk about your program a little bit, because what I found interesting about it is you. It was a pretty long questionnaire. You took a lot of information. I had sent you my test results that I’d had. And you came up with a system with supplements, which I think that was the part I really struggled with the most because I’m sensitive to supplements.

You came up with the diet thing, which was a very slight calorie deficit with eating very specific thing, basically animal protein, things like, you know, sweet potatoes. Giveaway all my secrets, Miranda. I know, I’m just I’m just I’m just I’m kidding, I’m kidding. I’m giving a synopsis here. Right. But what also also I wanted to mention, is it like you had me on this app, and in that app you had dozens and dozens of modules where you were explaining the the reasons behind the various things, and it could be everything.

Why is the diet structured this way? Why is this structured this way? And the whole thing was about sustainability, and that was what I was looking for, because I can do carnivore when I’m at home. But as soon as I start to travel, which I do a lot, it is very, very difficult to maintain high fat carnivore. And it and it sucks like you get depressed after a while, whereas I’ve been kind of more or less eating the way except from when I was Santa Ana.

I’ve been eating the way that you prescribed. I started strength training with the help of a friend of mine. He taught me about that and I still take some of the supplements he recommended, the ones that felt really good in the body. And just from that alone, from the sustainability of not having to cut all of these things out of my diet all of the time.

I have lost five kilos since an hour, and I’m getting stronger and my inflammation is down. Like now. If I overtrained like I did yesterday, I get myself into a flare that happens, right? But like, yeah, it as a whole. You know, I that’s that’s something I wanted to stress with this interview was to mention that the system itself, the key, the cornerstone of it, in my opinion, is the sustainability act.

Now, there are certain things I’m not going to give your secrets away. There are certain things, you know. Yeah, yeah. But like but I’ll just tell you, I, I did see some of your I was kind of looking at the clients foods diaries, I guess I’m the last couple of weeks and I did see your diaries. Kind of.

I scanned over them. So you, you know, you’re reading from what I can see. Like, you’re really kind of staying on top of the carbohydrates, which is super important when you’re training more because, you know, when you’re especially you’re doing any sort of, anaerobic activity, you’re going to be using your muscle glycogen and, you know, you have a good several hundred grams of capacity there.

So if you’re not replenishing that on a, on a regular basis like daily, that can definitely kind of bring you into like feeding fatigue, not recovering well. So I was very happy to see that you’re kind of staying on top of that, because knowing myself, being brainwashed by the carnivore sort of mentality is I had the car before I had the carbo phobia, so it took me a while to to kind of get that out of my head.

And I still have clients that months into the program, they’re still like, can you just explain to me why the calves are like, not the devil? Again, I saw a podcast by X, Y, Z. I’m like, just read my book again, watch the videos. Like why? You know, so it’s it’s it’s a really good thing because it can’t like like I said, it can take quite a long time to undo that.

Especially because I had no idea you were, you were editing, which, by the way, I really love Sean Baker. Like, he’s a really he’s actually like a really cool, down to earth guy. And I know he’s helping people, but what you said is, is very true because the sustainability aspect, especially for women, especially as we get older, there comes a time when you hit 40, 50, 60 plus, you’re not able to do the things that were stressing your body that you didn’t realize or stressing your body when you were 20, 30, 35.

So having a plan for what are you going to do when you’re 80? Like, I don’t think a lot of these people that are fasting out there and doing carnivore and whatever and intermittent fasting in Cairo, I don’t think they’re thinking a very far beyond the next five years, if that, like they feel good. Now this is working out, but what are you going to do in 20, 30, 40?

God, God willing, 60, 70 years time when you’re low, 80, 90? Are you going to be are you going to be like one of the grandmothers? Grandpa’s there on the block hanging out and say, guys, I just did my eyes bath. I’m going to do like a cold plunge later. Who wants to come and eat some, you know, like stick some butter and bulletproof coffee?

It’s like like, I don’t think people are thinking about what’s going to happen when you’re ready. Are you going to be able to do all of these things? Is it sustainable? Like I said, I think for some people it is, you know, because like and carnivore, when you ask those questions, I always point they’ve got like three women or something that have been doing carnivore for 30 years and that they look they do look good, they look healthy.

And if there’s one thing that I’ve learned because I, you know, I’ve had I was vegetarian also for a long time, for like two years. But like, there is no one size fits all diet for a person, in my opinion, throughout their entire lifetime, let alone for like, everybody. You know, I think carnivore was important for me to do, to learn.

Hey, I don’t have to feel like death all the time because I had daily migraines and constant nausea and stuff. And I also think I’m not. I’m at a point in my health where I don’t really need that, you know, and something I’ve noticed, and I’ve had my friend, she’s still carnivore. She’s like, oh, so you’re so you’re still eating a lot of sweet potatoes and you’re eating a lot of sugar and your energy’s got to suck.

And I’m like, well, no, I’m still eating like a pound of me today. And I’m eating those things and I’m drinking a lot of water and consuming a lot of salt. And I feel fine. Like I, you know, I feel I feel pretty good, you know, all things considered. So I think it’s a, I think it that I think of all the things that I got out of your system.

That was the thing that hit me the hardest in terms of like, sustainable solutions combined with things like supplementing progesterone and stuff, which I, you know, oddly enough, my, my, my test because I know, you know, hormone tests for women, it’s kind of a pain in the ass because it’s not that accurate, because my progesterone was high and my estrogen was normal, but all my symptoms were pointing to estrogen dominance, you know, and for gesture of supplementing helping helped.

You know. So it’s interesting, you know, the things that I got out of it as to what I expected to get out of it. Yeah. And blood blood tests are like because at the end of the day, these hormones, they’re exerting their effects at the in the cells at the level of the tissues, not. And and really blood is really, it’s a carrier medium.

It’s a connective tissue that allows us to kind of move them in different places in the body. So a lot of the, to be honest with you, even like I, I used to do more of the those, urine tests where you pee on the strips of paper, the Dutch test, and you see all these like amazing like, like lab results.

And it looks really impressive for the clients to see. Wow. Check out this is how you’re metabolizing your estrogen. I don’t really think it’s really even necessary to do hormone testing most of the time. Now, there’s actually certain things that are valuable, but it wouldn’t be like estrogen, you know, progesterone, testosterone, especially in a woman, is not really going to tell us very much.

What matters is the presentation of the person. So anytime someone has anything related to uncontrolled growth, whether that’s in the intermedium, in the, you know, the ovaries, whether that’s like lumps, cysts, or and tumors and stuff like that, that is very indicative pretty much all the time. I can’t think of a reason why it wouldn’t be. It’s uncontrolled proliferation of cells.

And we know that estrogen, that’s a hormone that sends that signal to the cells. It tells the cells divide and grow my previous. And then you have a differentiating hormone like, you know, to in, in meant to stop throwing in women, progesterone that would differentiate that growth so it doesn’t grow into a lump or a cyst.

It will grow into tissue that actually makes sense in the body. And it’s it’s doing functions as opposed to just consuming resources and then eventually causing people distress. And then they have to a lot of people, you know, they go to the hospital and then then then you’re on the conveyor belt of cut, poison burn. And a lot of people, they actually some of these things will be will become controlled by the body.

But there’s, there’s sort of, they use fear to get you to start cutting things. Operations, chemo, radiation, where in many cases these things may actually be controlled and the body may eventually even deal with them as long as that runaway estrogen access is contained. Now, not always, but there’s a lot that can be done without succumbing to the cut poison burn strategy.

So here’s an interesting question in regards to all of this, and I am curious as to your thoughts on because, you know, Anacapa offers ceremonies and things of that nature. And I’ve, you know, had experiences with that, but not this year, but the year before I had asked Bear or shaman like, hey, can you heal physical things? Actually, my partner ask, can you heal physical things with this?

And he had a personal story where he healed a former injury of sorts, basically completely like it was a situation where he was told he would never be able to have kids again. And he’s got two more kids since then. Right. And he had it. No. So this was bare for their hearted. My partner had asked, bare heart, can you heal stuff?

And he said, yeah, I was told, like, I don’t know, something happened. I’m not going to give this all the details. But basically he was told he was going to be able to have children. Wow. Anymore. He had already had like 1 or 2, but he was told no more. And he’s had two children since then and he attributes it to the buffet.

And during that time I had had a wrist issue that was reoccurring. My arm started vibrating and it stopped hurting. And the reason I’m bringing it up is this year I had a different experience with five DMT, which is the pure molecule, not necessarily buffalo. And I took it through a different ingestion method, but I essentially decided I was going to reprogram my reproductive system, and I was tearing up rose petals and everything.

And you know, when I came to your program, I had a cyst. Well, that cyst for months was just throbbing 24 hours a day, just throbbing, pulsating, throbbing, pulsating. I went into that ceremony this year, and I came out of the ceremony without pain, and I was like, okay, I guess I’m just relaxed. But the pain hasn’t returned, and I suspect if I go back and have an ultrasound, that cyst will be gone.

So I’m curious as to what role these sorts of things could play within your system as far as healing stuff like that. Do you know about that kind of thing? Yeah. Well, just a quick, quick story. My wife. Pretty soon after she started the progesterone a few years ago, she had some bleeding in the middle of her. Her cycle, which is never had basically never happened before.

So she was a little bit, you know, that’s kind of weird. But then actually this was in 24, I was at an and I remember she texted me, she said she had gone to a gynecologist. So so the backstory she actually had, they had found a cyst on one of her ovaries. And so in 24 then, in February when when she, she told me she was at the Garnier colleges, they did the, the scan and the cyst wasn’t there.

So that’s, that’s a again, like if you if you add things to the body that are supportive, like be it minerals, amino acids, hormones, whatever the case is, antioxidants, the body can start doing things on its own. So that’s one thing. But then, of course, to answer your question, I think for sure, like there’s a whole there’s a whole sort of study of, psycho neuro immuno endocrinology.

So cycle mind neuro referring to the, the nervous system and the criminal, referring to the hormonal system and immunology, referring to, of course, the immune system. So there’s like a, the body’s as we know, it’s, it’s a, a single cohesive, complex system now with, with the educational system the way it is, we compartmentalize everything, you know, like in school.

Same in medical school, you know. Geography. History. Whatever. And then there’s like, you know, endocrinology, neurology, immunology, human, whatever. So the sort of I’m not like deep into psycho neuroendocrine immunology, but the there has been reports like, I remember one doctor, I listened to his book on all the books. He was like a medical doctor, but I think he was from Columbia or something.

So he had gone back to his kind of roots, quote unquote. And he started the fellowship with a shaman. So he was participating in ayahuasca ceremonies, and he saw profound heating happening to people after the ayahuasca session. So I think, first of all, we have the entire sort of aspect of the mind being extremely powerful. So even if, let’s say, imagine like if I let’s say you go to like a doctor or a practitioner and they tell you, you don’t take this supplement here, whatever that is, or this thing, and they just give you water or like a sugar pill and you take that.

We know that a good 30, 40% of people that do that are going to have some kind of an improvement already, just by the power of the mind. So you have the psycho part. Then with your mind, you actually create or lower stress. You can literally sit there and raise your adrenaline with the way you think and even the way you breathe.

And then when you raise one stress hormone, you can raise others. So cortisol, you can start a cascade of stress hormone, increase that, then can then damage tissue, can cause imbalances, can suppress the immune system. And then when the immune system then is suppressed or in some way perturbed, then you can have other imbalances. So I absolutely like I mean for me the, the the my personal, the especially the last Buffalo journey I did in February at an archipelago, I was telling like I’ve been telling people that when talking about it, it’s like I got more healing in those 30, 40 minutes of that session than I did in my entire working with coaches, NLP,

hypnosis, LSD, all of the other plant medicines I’ve done before, all of it, all of it put together. So I absolutely think it’s it is possible because again, the mind influences the hormones. The hormones will then influence the immune system. The and and I mean it just you can it’s it’s such a it’s such a complex thing to think about.

But you can you can basically will yourself sick as we know like with the no cibo effect. Like the doctor when they cast a spell on you with the diagnosis. So it may be easier to do that because it’s easier to destroy something than to build something beautiful and complex. But just in the same way, I think if we put our mind to it, we can absolutely influence this in a positive way to kind of make a very short answer, very long and sorry.

No, no, I think I think there’s something to that. And I was thinking while you were talking because, you know, I’ve had other experiences, but this one was focused on my on my health in particular. But what I think part of what was different for this experience, compared to some of my other experiences, was I had a better idea of, and maybe I wasn’t following it the best at that time because I was doing stuff, but I had a better idea of what is probably the right choice as far as diet and things like that.

And so when I came out of it, because I, you know, I think I’d been on progesterone for maybe a month before that happened and I personally didn’t have any bleeding eye, but I am I would be surprised if I went back to the doctor and that cyst was still there, because I can’t feel it. If it’s there, I can’t feel it right.

And that’s what really mattered to me. Was that constant like it was it was hard just sitting there, just constant throbbing, and sometimes it’d be worse and I could feel it get worse when I get stressed. So I think that the combination of having like a sustainable plan, because you’re right, when you get that diagnosis and then doctors like, okay, well, you can go back on birth control.

That’s what they told me. It can go back on birth control and that’ll fix it. And you can just deal with it here, have some pain meds. You know, and I was like having, you know, basically the last two weeks of my cycle, I felt like I was on my period all the time. And I looked pregnant, you know, to the point to where my dad told me the other day, he was like, oh, yeah, I see, you know, your videos, you’re losing weight.

Also, I shouldn’t tell you this, but uncle Gene asked me if you were pregnant and I’m like, but I did. I looked like I was pregnant before I started the process. Like I looked like my mother did when she was nine months pregnant because of the inflammation. And and at the time, I was like, okay, the only way I’ve known of to reduce inflammation in my body and lose weight in the past has been go carnivore.

But when you do those highly restricted diets, you almost get a sort of, like a trauma from it because it’s like it’s so restrictive. And then there was points on those diets where if I did accidentally consume something else or on purpose consume something else, I would suffer and suffer and suffer. Whereas I think the plan that I like to say, the truth is in the middle.

And I think your plan and how you approach these things is very much like that, because I remember eating, reading what you, the diet you had set for me and I was like, this seems fake, like I can eat these things. I was like, I can’t. I’m like, what do you mean? You want me to eat honey before I go to bed?

That seems. That seems unreasonable. You want sweet dreams, don’t you? And I told my physical trainer about that, and he was like, oh, no, that’s one of the best things you could do. And you should also do that before you go train. And I was like, oh, okay. So these things were converging, you know, so what I want, I kind of want to switch gears a little bit.

I want to know, how did you get into this stuff? Like what sent you down the path to start this sort of coaching? Yeah. So for me, I was in a sense lucky that, I didn’t have any real health problems to speak of, pretty much ever. I mean, like, since getting into health, I, I did actually mess myself up with like, keto, low carb and stuff like that.

But I only later realized that I had done that to myself. But throughout my late teens and and throughout my 20s, my my big problem was I was a little bit like, into basically like drinking and just kind of being a little bit of a degenerate and partying and drugs were involved, and I just didn’t care. You know, I, I used to joke that, you know, my body is a temple, a temple of doom.

You know, it was the the food I ate. I don’t think I ever bought or anything that was certified organic throughout my those years. So then I met my wife, just as I kind of was turning 30. And because of her, I kind of started getting my act together. Now the problem there that happened is so she was a former professional ballerina and an injury had cut her career short.

So she only like dance professionally for about three years. So when I met her, she was just just out of kind of the thing. She had moved to Ireland, to her sister. That’s where we met. And, of course, as you probably know, that kind of training, they destroy these girls health. In fact, she she just told me a few days like last week that they’re like doing a petition now to report one of the the teachers in that school for basically abusing these kids.

And they’re going to this going to be a big sort of exposé they’re going to do. And they want people to to be signatories on it. That’s how bad it is. Like literally a cup of buckwheat is your entire day’s food, and you have to train six hours and you’re like 14, 15 and you’re still developing and all that stuff.

So pretty horrific. So, that meant or what happened then in the first year that we were together, she was basically sick. I remember her being sick constantly. I can’t even remember how many times. But I do remember that she, like, we were like, I wouldn’t say we were normies or anything, but like, she would just go to the doctor when she’s sick because she was like really rough.

And they just prescribed her antibiotics four times in that year that I remember. And, it was bad. It it was bad. And then she developed thrush. Sorry, honey, for TMI. It’s in the book anyway. But, she developed thrush from the antibiotics. So then she went to the doctor for that. And what did they do? They, of course, as you do, they put her on frickin estrogen on birth control for thrush.

I was like, what the hell is going on? So if it had fixed it, I wouldn’t have complained. But the problem is that that turned her like her change. Her personality was like like we were on the verge of, you know, like cutting ties and stuff. So I, I begged her at one point some weeks into it to stop, she stopped and she normalized.

But then we we went at some point, we, we went to visit her home country for like, I don’t remember how long, it was like six days or something. And she basically spent most of that time in bed, like she was in bed with like high fever, coughing her lungs out. And I was just basically I saw her, her hometown, basically her, her one of her best friend’s apartment was like, that’s where I spent most of my time.

Like this. This sucks. I gotta, I gotta figure some stuff out. So that that led me to start learning more. Start. I started listening to to health podcasts and reading books and, starting supplements and all sorts of stuff. That’s when I started all the the intermittent. So 2018 really is when I started hardcore intermittent fasting and all this other biohacking stuff.

So that continued on. I started learning, doing some courses and certifications because I just got super into all of this stuff, doing like lab testing, genetic testing, and then at some point. She told me my my wife, she told me that they suspected her nephew, that he’s on the autism spectrum. So then I started digging into that.

So I started digging in, and I kind of gave my, my wife’s sister, my sister in law. I gave him some stuff, some supplements that they can do with the kid to, you know, clean up the diet, get the gluten out, all that stuff. So that progressed until I decided, you know what, I can help people with this, but I need to to be taken seriously.

I need to write a book. So that’s when I wrote my first book. It was in 2019, and then I published that in 2020. And then since then I started working with like moms with and parents with autistic kids. I realized the parents were they in many cases, they needed more help than the kids, especially the moms. They were like run ragged with stress and everything, and they were eating worse than the kids in some way, in some ways, because, they were just so stressed to putting themselves last.

So that’s when I started working more with the moms, and that then progressed later on to me, kind of moving on into more the longevity aspect and just kind of work mostly with adults now. So, you know, I’ve since then, I’ve published a book on longevity in 2024, and now I have a whole program called the Live Longer Formula, where I’ve integrated everything from the last ten years into the best, the best bits in one place so that, you know, clients that come to me, they know not just what to do, exactly what to do.

It’s spelled out, but also what to avoid doing. Like things like, you know, a lot of people are like, oh, this growth hormone, peptides, you know, the the growth hormone security goals. Well, think of those like, yeah. No, no. So the growth hormone secreted would be the ones that, you know, they’re kind of subcutaneous. They’re more like the uncontrolled stuff where it’s because it’s it’s anabolic and it can burn fat.

But the thing about it is that I’m going to write that in my next book, now that I’ve been working on it. Like I said for the last several months, growth hormone is freaking carcinogenic. And we’ve been sold that nitric oxide boosting nitric oxide is really good for us and that omega three. So all these things that you got to do are important.

But the things that you don’t do like fasting too much and whatever, taking omega threes, those are just as important because you can make a lot of progress with the things that you do. Right. But you can then set yourself back and be like taking five steps forward, three steps back with a lot of the other things, like things like resveratrol taking too much curcumin that can block detox pathways, even milk this.

So that’s like a great apparent alleged detox that can also block some of the dog’s pathways. So I teach people what to do and what to avoid this. Just as importantly, because there’s so many, so many red herrings being thrown at us, not just in the mainstream but in the alternative mainstream, because a lot we all like feed from the same trough.

So it seems like the information is getting disseminated from one source. It just different interpretations. So, you know, the mainstream, I have one way of talking about things. And then a lot of the alternative mainstream, they just parrot the same narratives coming top down. That’s kind of what it seems like to me. Yeah, I that’s that’s super interesting.

And I do remember a little bit of your wife’s story, but I didn’t remember all of it. Right. And so I think that’s they say necessity is the mother of all invention. And, you know, sometimes when there’s not really a solution, you have to be the one to make the solution. And I also didn’t realize about, you know, you working with autistic kids because autism is the thing in my family.

It’s something I deal with. It’s something my little brother dealt with. And he actually, in my opinion, he lost his life to it because he was drugged from a young age and then addicted to those drugs until he passed away from them. And so something personally that I have learned is because a lot of people are surprised when I tell them I’m autistic, but I’m a I’m a very managed autistic person, you know, like I have slight things about me, but I wouldn’t consider this to be a disease or a disorder in terms of how I function with my body now.

But I did have to build my whole life structure around both the combination of autism and ADHD to make it so I could honor the way my brain works without medicine, without stress, really. And, so that’s super interesting. That’s super interesting about the autism part.

But. So I had no idea. That’s that’s pretty rough. How old was your your bro. He was like one month away from turning. Well, like six weeks away from turning 20 years old. Yeah. I mean, like the what I’ve seen like because I’ve for whatever reason, when I published the book, I just, the really the, the most complex cases were the people that started coming to me the most.

You know, it wasn’t just like, oh my, I think my kid might be on the spectrum. It was like, we’re talking about kids that are completely nonverbal at four and even at, well, barely verbal at six, and just kind of a lot of like, just really rough stuff with sleep, with constipation, obviously cognitive function. So, just seeing what was on offer from the conventional care was like, this is, it’s it’s straight up a crime against humanity because I, I’ve even had clients that are doctors with, with autistic kids come to me.

And I remember there was one that in the, the UK, he was kind of managing everything the supplements, the diet as much as possible. His wife is a general practitioner and things would go in amazingly like the the kid started actually sleeping through the night because he was like screaming in the middle of the night, which is horrific for for both of them.

And he was actually starting to poop much better. And he was like a lot less anxious and hyperactive and everything. So everything was going great. We’re like kind of, you know, just gradually, you know, making little tweaks. And then one day, you know, the mom comes home and just stops the supplement protocols. He’s got a he’s he’s like, he has to stop all these things that this is what the dad relayed to me.

And I’m like, and he he was like, he’s regressing super fast. And I just when I saw that and this was one of the events, several of these events started happening where I just saw, like what we were up against. And I just said to myself, you know what? This is too hard breaking. I thought, I thought, I, I want to be a part of the solution here, but it’s just when you were up because a lot of these folks, the, the parents, they go as soon as like they spec their kid is on the spectrum and they go to like some kind of analyst that quote unquote diagnoses them.

What are they like? What do they hear? It’s there’s no cure. It’s genetic. It’s for life. Like those are the first trauma based mind control brainwashing that are implanted into their head, that no Sibo effect. So now at that point, they they’re like there is no solution. Potentially we can manage some of the difficulties here. And so the parents might get on SSRI, which is a great way for them to kind of get get them into that sort of loophole.

And then even they’re going to try either anti-psychotics or SSRIs on the kids. If they’re very anxious, they might try benzos. Like the whole thing is horrific, not only because some of the symptoms could be caused by actual more serotonin, right? And adding more serotonin could drive the kids to literal suicide and violence. I had one, one client, where the sun.

He was a bit older. He had actually attacked his mother one day. He, like, hit himself and he was like, on three medications. I’m like, it’s it’s the those are the things causing that. It’s not his autism. It’s the the chemical imbalance is caused by these freaking poisons. That and but that, that, that was also a doctor. So he was like completely indoctrinated to the system.

And a lot of the things that those drugs do that are beneficial actually can be achieved with regular run of the mill supplements you can buy from Amazon, I, herb, etc. things that work on dopamine, you know, breaking down serotonin and obviously getting the gut improved. That’s super important. But a lot of those things are deficiencies, toxicity imbalances.

And of course, vaccine injuries are a great precipitate of these things. They kind of push the dominoes in that direction and then the rest goes awry. And then all that inflammation, oxidative stress that depletes the nutrients that the kids are already eating very little of that causes pronounced nutrient deficiencies. And then these things just, you know, snowball. And so it’s a it’s a huge even with one child that’s kind of relatively severe, moderate to severe on the spectrum.

It’s such a huge ball of yarn. And unless the parents are cooperating with the practitioner and they’re don’t allow Western medicine to interfere with poisons, it’s such a difficult process. It’s and it’s at the same time heartbreaking and very frustrating for everybody involved. So I just want to be honest with you, Miranda, I said, I, I said to my wife and I cannot be a martyr here and just keep banging my head against the wall because like, I, I, I will, I will quit, I’ll go and do something else.

I’ll figure out another business to start, you know. Yeah. The programing there is super strong. Like in the case of my brother, he was diagnosed with four years old and immediately put on. And it still to this day blows my mind. And the fact that anybody that prescribed him what they prescribed him was surprised about the drugs he ended up addicted to, because basically they said, okay, so from now, from four years old until ten years old, when we are going to stop these medications, he will be on two drugs.

One of them was Adderall, which is basically methamphetamine. Yeah, there’s like one molecule difference or something like chemically. And then the other one was literally an adult blood pressure medication that would lower his blood pressure to the point of where it would knock him out. And like my family used to joke about it, because if you gave him his pill too early, he would fall asleep during dinner, just face and bull.

He would fall asleep while walking up the stairs to his room and fall down the stairs. And then they wonder why. Okay, they literally just completely cut him off of those things at it was either 10 or 12, and then they wondered why he was addicted to meth and heroin. In his adulthood. He was literally using in the same way, meth during the day and then heroin at night to be able to sleep.

And it was just because, like, the reality was like he wasn’t nonverbal. He was that part because they say the spectrum is a line, right? The spectrum is actually a circle. And it not, in my opinion, a severely autistic kid isn’t always nonverbal. And that was the situation with my brother. In fact, he was the opposite. Like he would, you know, I remember before he was medicated, it was three in the morning.

And he’s just he just can’t stop talking. And we were having like we were visiting and he just couldn’t stop talking. But it’s really interesting how the how the system is just okay, let’s just put these kids on drugs. And the reality is the majority of them continue to struggle with substance abuse throughout their life. You know, that’s just that’s just where it is.

Whereas I, you know, presented slightly differently. And I wasn’t destructive and aggressive in the way that my brother was. And so nobody ever thought to diagnose me. And I was never put on medication. And, you know, I found ways in my adulthood to, to manage it, you know, but like, yeah, it is one of those things where it really is about it’s about health and it’s about emotional health too, and stress.

Because I’ve realized I was autistic, because I was having these episodes when I was in my relationship with my ex, where I would just start uncontrollably hitting myself, and he thought it was a thing for attention, but like, it really wasn’t. It was I would feel it coming on and I would run into a room where nobody could see me and I would just hit myself to like, couldn’t see straight.

When I googled it, autism came up and then I realized I had all the symptoms, you know? But that is one of those things where it’s I think it’s really misunderstood by a lot of people. I think there is a genetic component, but there is that vaccine, you know, I, I I’ll tell you, this is very interesting. There over the years when, you know, when I, I was working in various companies back in the day when I was kind of working in tech and stuff, and there were certain guys that I would work with that I would always, like, get a specific sort of vibe from, like, not in like a super negative way,

but they just kind of would look at me in a strange way every once in a while. And then when I was writing the book, I kind of started, you know, sharing it with people from my past and, several I won’t say a lot, but several of those guys then by then they had kids and stuff. So several of those guys, they told me, I’m going to buy the book because my child, my son is, you know, 3 or 4, he’s on the spectrum.

So I think like there’s definitely like we the way you like, you might like you might have a family history of cancer. And then someone like I, we have in my, in my family more like of heart disease. Atherosclerosis. Like we definitely have like our genetic predisposition for certain things more so than others. Like some people might have more Alzheimer’s.

So it’s definitely seems like if there’s a susceptibility potential in terms of genetics for for autism. But I’ll tell you, as I was researching the book and like I started a lot of that research in 2018 and then in 2019 is when I decided to actually like Go Hard. And actually I spent eight months just just working on that like 12, 14 hours a day.

So during this time, that’s when I was like, I was studying. We weren’t even married yet with my wife. But I told her, like, all right, well, definitely not going to be vaccinating our kids one day. And she was still like, oh, we have to research someone. Maybe there’s good vaccines. We have to research. I’m like, I’m pretty sure like, I don’t need to research anything because like, even as I was reading in the research, you have to be you have to tiptoe through the tulips and be super careful to make sure that your stuff gets published.

Because if you start calling things out, you could destroy your career forever. But even in spite of that, I saw in multiple places in this autism research where the researchers were questioning, why are we injecting our kids with like thousands of micrograms of aluminum, for example, directly into the bloodstream? Not through not that’s not dietary exposure, where the gut can protect you.

You might not absorb it. You could toxic in the liver. There’s like several layers of protection. If it’s like just dietary aluminum exposure, for example, or or let’s say from air pollution. But the even researchers were like and there was I even saw one paper where they were talking about, you could use other much safer things as the adjuvant for the vaccine, like zinc instead of aluminum.

Of course, that’s if you even believe that a vaccine is necessary. But the point is that even then they were they were talking about the potential dangers and harms and safer ways to do it. And in spite of that, you know, oh, they threw us a bone. They took the mercury out of whatever. But like, like the, the, the a new one.

And this is something we’ve spoken to friends here that have kids. As soon as you do a little bit of research, if you have a modicum of intelligence, you realize that this this is not something you want to do to your child. The only person that does this to their child is simply still ignorant and has done the research with an open, intelligent sort of mind.

So I think that that’s like, that’s definitely a huge component, not just to autism, an ADHD, but also there’s a lot of other stuff like asthma. Now you have the pandas that’s kind of more prominent. There’s all these sort of autoimmune type issues, eczema, all of these things are have a component, or at least most of them have a component of immune system dysregulation.

And when you think about it, that’s what these vaccines are doing. They’re working at the at the immune system level. They’re perturbing something. So yeah that’s more of the story is like now that we know we cannot be a part of this agenda because we’re we’re perpetrators. And even I have friends here. Sorry to be long winded. I have friends here that are, just just last week, I was talking to one body.

He showed me the the vaccine sort of, booklets. He he’s doctored for his kids, and, like, dude, I wouldn’t do that because I don’t want to enable this system. I would rather, you know, deal with it and kind of explain my rationale and to whatever way I have to do. I’d rather fight it, then be like, show that I’m quote unquote compliant, even though it’s with fake documentation, and my kids are not back.

I don’t think I don’t think that’s the right way to do it, because then you’re you’re saying this system is okay, I figure out my own loophole and that’s fine. But like, we should be speaking out on the entirety. I want other parents. I want the teachers or whatever administrator in my daughter’s preschool. I want them to ask me why is she not vaccinated?

Not that I have to give them a reason. It’s my choice. It’s my child, and it’s our choice as a family. But I want them to inquire because I want to, you know, put on the tin foil hat and absolutely blast them with, you know, the lizard people stuff. Right? Go down really well in Portugal, one of the most, most indoctrinated brainwashed countries.

Yeah, that’s really interesting. And I mean, with my own thing with being vaccinated is like, I was raised to anarchist parents and then I kind of got brainwashed by school, and there was a point where I was comparing because I had access to all my documents, and I was comparing my vaccination sheet to my best friends because she had told me, oh, I just got my new this vaccine and my whatever symptoms hurt.

And I was like, wait, you’re still getting vaccines? And she’s like, I give vaccines every year. And I’m like, wait a minute. And I go and I look at my card and I was like, wow, I’m behind them at four, you know, like, I need to catch up here. Yeah. And I even told my gal I was like, dad, what the fuck?

And he’s like, he’s like, oh my God. He’s like, he’s like, I don’t really believe in those. And anyway, we we stopped getting those for you because because I had an issue where I had a mulberry tree pollen issue and he’s like, well, that started to get worse. And you were having constant asthma attacks even with that. And there was some emotional stuff that was happening.

And he was like, so your mom said that she wasn’t going to take you for him anymore. And I just I just supported her, you know, whereas now, like I had, if I would have even gotten one less vaccine, I would not have been able to attend college without getting that vaccine because of how little vaccines I had.

Right. Looking back now, I’m like, thank God for that. But what’s interesting is. I have become more convinced than ever that the basis of autism is actually a genetic thing, because, I mean, I’m not going to name names here, but I’ve met a lot of anarchist unvoiced kids out of the system that are very autistic. Right. However, it makes you wonder what sort of body, you know, emotional situation would they be in had they gotten those shots right?

And I think that the vaccines kind of turned that stuff up to 11. Exactly. You know, trigger the spark that lights the flame. Yeah. Yeah. Like flips the switch. And then all of a sudden a kid that’s kind of quirky, that talks too much about bugs and isn’t that great at making eye contact becomes a kid that’s, you know, hurting himself just to get by, you know, and and that’s the other thing that because like, through my research, like for the the first half of the book, the Autism book from 2020, the first half is like the, the, the, the health challenges that autistic kids have, like from the research.

And then the latter half of the book is about like lab testing, supplements, diet or what to do about it. All right. So in the research, like things that are associated with with autism will be things like, you know.

Deficiencies of certain things, vitamins, minerals, toxic metals like, mercury, aluminum. But the other thing, constipation got this function. Certain bacteria like, cause I think Clostridium difficile was one. There was a few studies with Candida being elevated. So it’s not like it’s not like, it’s just the vaccine. This is what I, I’ve spoken about it on other podcasts I’ve been on.

It’s like, I hate it when we label things as cancerous parasites or this, this is the 5G or it’s never just one thing because a lot of these kids, yes, the their parents might be, anarchists and and that’s great, but they still may be getting a lot of exposures from the environment, from diet. Like a lot of kids, it’s so difficult to, to even make it.

I know, like we we all the food we buy is organic, but it’s like she wants to eat, you know, chocolate rice cakes and organic chocolate. So it’s it’s still difficult to get them to eat, like super clean, even though you know that they’re supposed to do that because you can’t you can’t reason with like a four year old.

It’s just like you better off like go, go talk to your dog and teach in English or something. So there’s a lot of other aspects in the environment pollution, those other thing is air pollution. PVC floors, like there was one study that homes this was in in Sweden a long time now since I’ve done this research.

But in it was a Swedish study where homes with PVC flooring like vinyl flooring, they there was an association with autism. Even living closer to I think it was golf courses. And then there was another one closer to like a certain agricultural sites, I think for strawberries or something that’s certain certain chemicals fungicides are used for, and not to mention glyphosate.

So you have a huge number of factors that are like toxic exposures from the diet, the environment. And then you have all the all the other stuff, for example, moms being unnecessary. Like you may, you know, you may be an anarchist, but I, I know a lot of anarchists who have been unnecessary, who have like, just been through the wringer, have been on, you know, women having been on, on, a birth control.

And, you know, we wake up, but sometimes the past still haunts us. So just like we have to factor that in, there’s so many. And, you know, Jeff talks about this all the time on his walk and talks like we’re getting bombarded from all levels. So we have to factor that in when we are creating a strategy, when we’re starting to take responsibility for our health.

It’s not just, you know, getting the proof of side of our diet. It’s not just, you know, getting having EMF hygiene, it’s also light hygiene. Obviously, water is important. Everybody knows that. But it’s also like a lot of the time, there’s a dozen other things that we’re not thinking about. It could be that we’re living in a in a place where there’s a lot of very pollution and we just don’t realize it because like, you know, New York, Los Angeles, whatever.

Like we don’t realize how much air pollution is actually diminishing the our health and our children’s health. So there’s a bunch of other stuff. So I totally agree with you. There’s there’s a susceptibility to it. And if you stack enough of these sort of, let’s say enough firewood in a child from again from food from environment, from whatever else, mothers health.

When, when when the mother the mother’s health greatly can affect this as well. Like you know, for example, just sorry long winded, but even like mothers with all three meal stuff that had kids, they there was a higher incidence of autism. Like when the mom had things like, you know, type one diabetes and things like that. So there’s a lot of things if you stack enough of them in, in against a child, then you could tip them over, you know, into some something that can start to be quote unquote, diagnosed as autism.

And unfortunately, the thing that that’s probably one of the most potent triggers would be, you know, this vaccine schedule where you’re getting dozens and dozens of these and directly into the bloodstream. I think this is to me, it’s I know and it I intellectually understand it. But like deep inside, like I every time I think about it, I shudder to think that we’re continuing as like this massive population.

We’re continuing to allow this most heinous of crimes against our children. It’s absolutely unbelievable that we are this sort of, passive when, when this is happening to our children. Yeah, there’s really, in my opinion, there’s something to that. And, you know, when we talk about things like the food, the reality is, unless you’re living in a country where glyphosate, phosphate and things like that are completely banned, even if you’re buying organic thing from certified organic farms that are verified to only use organic products when rain happens, there’s no way of stopping the from the farms around them from coming onto their property or the other things, the trails and all of that stuff.

There’s no way to stop that from getting any of your crops unless you’re an underground organic farm, which is where, as far as I know, those don’t exist. You know it is. It is really. That’s why, you know, like, I have a lot of friends that live in the United States. They eat all organic. They’re even homesteading, and they’re still having these health issues that are common for people in the US.

And it’s because of physically where they are, where they’re living, you know? And that’s why when they visit Italy and other places and even Mexico, like Mexico, is a completely different ball game when it comes to farming. And there’s a reason why the people here in general are more or less healthier than the people in the United States.

So that’s super interesting to me. I had written down a note earlier in the conversation back when we were talking about fasting that I want to touch on real quick. And do you know who John Taylor Gatto is? Yes. He was the the New York Teacher of the year that was talking a lot about homeschooling of a few of his books.

Yeah, he was one of the down. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Well, he did this five hour podcast with Richard Grove called The Ultimate History Lesson. And one of the things that he said that I’ve never forgotten, that, like I was reminded of while listening to you talk about how you were trying, you were doing research and expecting to find something to tell you you were wrong.

Well, he said, because, you know, Richard was like, how do you how do you find all this information? How do you come to all these conclusions? And he said, well, I get to the point to where I am because I spend my entire life arguing with myself. And yeah, it sounds to me like that’s what you’ve done with a lot of this stuff is you kind of went deep expecting to find, you know, various things.

And in a lot of these situations, you’re kind of finding the opposite with everything from carbs to fasting to all the other various things that just don’t fit. Would you agree with that? Yeah, yeah. And it’s like they they say like if if your hypothesis is correct, it should be strengthened as the body of research or knowledge, grows.

So for example, if you look at the cholesterol and heart disease hypothesis from, you know, the 50s and so on. I mean, it’s I know most people out there like kind of more normal people, they still kind of believe that because they’ve been just it’s been downloaded into their mind. But if you look at it like we’re at the point where, like it’s it’s not getting any stronger and more and more evidence is debunking it.

And the best they have is like these, these consensus papers where there’s like the list of conflict of interest list is like a page long of all these like researchers that are their names are on the paper are getting have gotten, you know, honoraria from all these pharmaceutical companies. So you know it with fasting. What it looks like on the surface level is more research getting pumped out from, you know, the states, Europe, Asia, China, there’s like tons and tons of research.

And then there’s, you know, meta analyzes and and systematic reviews. So what it looks like is that the body of research is just growing. And then they’re citing, oh, we these studies found benefits here. Those studies found benefits there. So on the surface it looks like the hypothesis is is getting stronger. But the unfortunate thing I’ve had to do is like, actually read a lot of these papers, which is like, really just is enough to make you lose the will to live.

Because like the most, I can’t think of a more boring thing than to read about starving people or like intermittent fasting. You just. I don’t even know why I do this to myself. It’s because I feel like this information needs to be shared. So as I’ve been going in there, I’m just like finding more and more reasons why it’s a bad idea.

And, yeah, I’m really I’m really I know I’m not going to make many friends when I publish the book, and because I’ve already like, I’m just some of the comments emails, occasionally I get their not very, let’s say polite, but I know I’m not going to make I’m not gonna like, win popularity contest with the book, but I figure even if I ha even if, let’s say over the the lifetime of the book, it sells a few thousand copies and maybe several dozen practitioners also read it so that they stop parroting the narratives.

They’ve been like, literally just they’re just been parroting this because. Oh, I heard autophagy, this cellular cleanup. So I’m going to tell that to my clients or whatever content creators, even if a few dozen of people see this and they stop parroting this information, and a few thousand people kind of protect themselves long term, and maybe their friends and family members, I think it will have been worth the pain and suffering of, you know, the last several months of me researching and now writing it and putting it together.

Yeah. So it’s interesting because the fasting thing, that was something that I glommed on to at the same time, I got on a carnivore. And it’s funny, it took me many years and going down like the women’s health rabbit hole to realize that it’s far as I know, maybe that’s changed in the last year, but as far as I know, not a single one of those studies is done on women.

So all of the statistics. Yeah, yeah. So like what works for, you know, a 30 to 50 year old man of course is not going to be good long term for a woman. Right. And and I think there’s a balance, you know, like me personally I when I’m hungry and I don’t when I’m not you know, I but I’m not like forcing myself.

Okay. I’m hungry at this time but it’s not my eating window anymore. You know, if I’m hungry during that time, I’ll do it. You know, I’ll just eat something or have something small. Right. And it’s interesting to me because a lot of these studies, as you’re saying, when you actually look at the studies, the way that they do them is completely backwards.

It doesn’t make sense in terms of how people actually live their lives. And so they get the results that they get. But are are they actually generalizable? Exactly. I’ll give you just one example that popped into my head because I have my, my kind of my, my book app book writing app here. So I have all the like the, the chapters and the topics.

It’s been an insane amount of research. This book could like this could be expanded into three books, but I’m just going to keep it like to more general stuff so people don’t get bored to death. But you could really like go into a lot of depth into be it for cancer or, or weight loss or whatever the case is.

But there was just just the example we want to give you. It was one paper where the guys were roughly Ohman, roughly 30 years of age, and they had a five year history of consistent weight training. So they two so they did two months of intermittent fasting. 1608 and then there was a follow up study where the you know, they followed some of those guys for like a full 12 months.

So to make a long story short, in the two month mark, the guys now these are 30 year old man, well trained to continue to train three times a week there to stop. Strong had dropped like about 2,021% two months into it, eight weeks and then 12 months, it was still there. It was like around 2,021% lower than baseline.

So the question I asked the reader as I write in that section of the book is like, all right, so if you’re if you’re not 30, if you if you’re if you’re 40, 50, 60, or if you’re a woman or a woman, that’s 40, 50, 60, do you think you’re going to have a better outcome here in terms of your hormones, your protective sex hormones, then 30 year old guys that have been consistently weight training for five years?

Do you think your hormones are going to respond in a more favorable way? So then we can look like studies on, on on how fast it increases inflammation or oxidative stress or causes lean mass loss right from intermittent fasting. So each time we kind of present a small because you don’t have one, one large study that tests all of these things, it would be very difficult to do and very expensive and very little benefit to just have a study that shows you all these negative things happening.

They they like to do few markers so that, oh, we just wait. So they look at total weight loss. They don’t look at how much of that was fat mass, how much of that was lean mass. Because a good 70% of what you lose is going to be lean mass. Now a lot of that will be water, but half of that 70% or so will be muscles, bones and organs.

Right. So I’ve had to like piece together from different studies, different data points that when we kind of synthesize it into like a, a bigger picture, then I leave it to the reader and I’m going to be doing podcast episodes about this as well, all of these kind of disparate things. I’ll leave it to the reader or to the listener to then make a decision for themselves.

Now that you have the full picture, because it’s always been so far, the one side of the coin where this is like the best thing ever. Oh my God, Jesus fastest. Don’t you know Jesus fasted. Jesus also came back from the dead, bro. You know, also there. Have you ever heard of Armin? I think his name is Amman Hammond or something like that.

No, he is a Greek. I’ll send you a video that will blow your mind. He is a Greek, like I had. Forget the name for it. But he knows ancient Greek and he’s like one of the experts on that. Well, he went back and read the text of the Bible derived from Jesus. According to him was a blood and sex magic.

Practicing pedophile in Jesus’s 12 disciples were actually children. They were boys. And like, here’s the thing. Or here’s the thing though, like I recently went like down a rabbit hole. And I’ve been learning a lot about, like, the Children of God called and FLDS and stuff like that. And there is a big, strong, free sex plus children narrative and all of those established cults.

So for me, like, I’m not I’m not so sure that, like, he would be wrong. You know, it makes sense that we’ve lost the Christian audience here. But that’s the way I look at it. Yeah, that’s the way I look at it. Like we look at, you know, Mark, you’re talking about religion. The etymology relegated to bind, to hold back.

I mean, I get it like I believe in God. You know, I get that aspect that there’s a creator, but like, come on, like the religion. Just because we first of all in the religions, like I looked into it not not deeply. I didn’t want to talk about that. I didn’t want to like, piss people off too much.

This the book is an American focus. Sometimes we got a ruffle. Some feathers. Yeah, yeah. But like the, the whole thing about. And I actually did talk about this in my book workshop because we covered fasting over the, over the three hours in a lot of death, like in ton of depth. And I told the guys like it was like 12, 13 people in there.

Guys like religion. Like, do you think the religion is here for your benefit? I mean, come on, we’re not 12 year olds here. God is real. God the creator is real source. All that good stuff. But like the religions, look at the look. Look at what the freaking Catholic Church has done. You know, the Vatican. So just and and here’s the thing.

Why are these texts saying to facets to, for atonement, for atonement, for sin to purify the body? They, they’re almost never mentioning you’re going to live longer. This is a modern construct. And they’re not saying you’re going to be healthier. Now the Greeks forget his name. Who was it? Socrates or whatever. Like he would have his new, new sort of initiates fast for 40 days before being initiated.

But like it’s then they frame it. It’s to purify the body. Now that purifying the body is such a freaking nebulous term, it’s such a slimy term. You are. You purify yourself, purifying yourself at the energetic level or the theory level, like you’re you’re certainly not getting healthier after 440 days of fasting. You if you don’t die, you will be extremely weak, you’ll be emaciated, and it will take you a long time to properly recover to where you were and then just to recover where you were, never mind getting stronger and actually, you know, whatever else.

So like the whole, the religious aspect is, yeah, they fasted. But like if I, if I created a religion today and I was like an evil guy and I wanted the plebs to not get to, I would have fasting in there. I would have low carb diets. I would have all of this nonsense that we’re doing now for health.

I would have ice baths all the time. I would have the guys doing sauna, super hot sauna to fry their testicles to destroy their fatality. I would do all of this like women would, would fast, women would do low carb. They would become infertile in many cases. Like I would be doing all these things if I was like a ruler and a kind of a like starting my own religion.

I would be adding all these things and I would, of course, brainwash you that all of these things will bring you closer to God, all the all your suffering. And then, of course, in the afterlife, you will be rewarded with whatever else because you did all these things in, in God’s honor. Yeah, I’ve been watching one on one.

I’ve long since thought that religion is. It’s two things. It’s one a humans. We have this tendency to try to put explanations on things that which we do not understand, and that’s a big part of it. Right? But beyond that, there are a lot of corrupt people out there that recognize that they can use that thing that people do not understand as a tool to control.

Right. And so, yeah, I agree with you completely on that. Yes. Maybe we’ll Russell some Christian feathers, but the reality is that anybody that really is coming to Antarctica and diving in and staying with us is going to be somebody who has at least willing to hear the possibility. Right? We’re not saying that God is a pedophile, that, you know, had little, you know, sex, blood magic things with children.

But Jesus, as far as we understand, was just some guy that people were following around. Right. So that’s an interesting thing for me. I have two final questions for you before we wrap this up. The first one is what is the most miraculous thing that you have witnessed with one of your clients since you started? Just to kind of not spend too long thinking about it?

I will mention one of my clients, Heather. She just joined. I don’t know how long it’s been a couple of months, but, she, she she heard me on Josh Sigurdsson world Alternative Media and she was like really struggling. She had PMDD which is like PMS on steroids. So premenstrual dysphoric disorder and this is I’ve had other clients with this and still have some active clients with this.

And this is like literally driving women to suicide in many cases. Like it can make a woman suicidal or homicidal. It’s that horrible. And, so but but so, so Heather, she had horrific got problems for about five years to the point where kind of like a lot of bowel movements were actual emergencies. She’s a nurse. So in a very difficult to work with with like patients in a hospital when you have to like literally have an emergency bowel movement and multiple times a day and a lot of like that also is coupled with like pain and, and and bloating and and cramping and stuff like that.

So she had that a lot of fatigue and it was crazy like week one, she the supplements hadn’t arrived yet. She just started doing my diet. The the all the cramping, the bloating, the diarrhea, the diarrhea subsided. It her bowel movements basically normalized over the next couple of weeks. But within like days, she was already feeling better because like, she was getting some some quick, quick and easy foods to eat at work that were on paper.

They looked healthy, like I would eat them sometimes and stuff. It was just the combination of things in her situation, was irritating to her guts, or just gave her like little tweaks so that she could. Still, she wouldn’t have to, like, start immediately prepping food from home or whatever. It was still convenient. And then the she said week two and I’m talking like within like days and weeks.

It was amazing. So within the first 4 or 5 weeks, she told me a bunch of things, but one of the next things was like she said, oh wow. So before I would get home and just go directly to the couch and just be on the couch, you know, whatever, now I can actually do things after getting home with like 8 p.m..

So that was amazing. Energy started coming back. But then one of the most amazing things is that, like I said, PMDD means like women are like hating their life. So the week coming up to the period is like a horrible, horrible time. Now, the period itself can be pretty horrible as well, but that week coming up to it is really, really horrible.

Like depression, apathy, like literally people lose, women lose the will to live. And in this case, what happened is her next period basically called her by surprise. I was like, I, I couldn’t believe it because like with PMDD, like it, it can actually get worse before it gets better in some cases, because you’re pushing estrogen out, you’re discombobulating some balance that the body was holding together.

So her period came out of the blue almost because she would know like ten days to seven days to ten days before it, you know, like, you know yourself, Miranda, like things start to swell up and you feel it’s harder to sleep and you’re cranky, whatever the case is. So that was amazing. And then, about four weeks into it, she had some kind of really, really serious personal stuff.

But she said she went through everything like she was strong through it. And like, just every time she’s on the the coaching calls that we have three times a week, like every time I see her, she has this, like, big, big, wide smile and like this kind of look of like, Holy shit, I did. I did not expect it’s a six month program.

I did not expect in like weeks to feel so good, like, I don’t I feel so great. And we, we, we got obviously the lab tests started coming in and there was imbalances to, to to to address to and and deficiencies oxidative stress. So there’s imbalances in there that you know that do occur over this period of time.

But we just super glad that the horrible symptoms are out of the way. So now we can just kind of work, work away at, you know, balancing certain things like, you know, mineral balance and, and, some gut stuff, gut cleanses, getting deliver all that good stuff working. So I think that’s I’ll share that because that’s one of the, the most recent stories.

And it, it was like I was like every time she would come on a call like, you’re making my whole week, you’re making my week. This is I wish we had these results. Of course, everybody’s mileage varies, right? Right. Yeah. And I mean, I’m pretty sure it points I’ve dealt with a sort of PMDD like I, I remember before my, my, I knew that my period would be for sure coming within 2 to 3 days when I would have a full blown panic attack, like not able to breathe, panic attack.

And yeah, I mean, every woman has that kind of like sense of impending doom. Like, let me just get this over with thing. And it’s funny, for me personally, I’m happy when I get my cycle because it feels like a flip gets, you know, a switch gets flipped, and I’m able to focus again. And there’s no longer the impending doom thing.

And that’s like 2% of what I used to deal with, which was I would just flip out, have a panic attack, be like, everything in my life is terrible. And then when, you know, 24 hours later, my cycle starts and it’s like, oh, and that’s more common than most people think. So I think that is that is a big thing.

Okay, so here’s my final question. You’re working on the fasting book and one that’s released after that because you’ve already addressed autism. You’ve addressed in your nose to how to actually live longer. And now you’re addressing fasting. What’s next? Yeah, actually I, I was writing I had sort of started quite a bit of the research for how to actually live longer volume two.

So I was hoping to make me do a three part series or maybe a five part series there, but I, I paused that even though it’s a lot more interesting than the fasting research, I paused that because, I really like honestly, it was the same with the autism book. I really didn’t want to write it. I felt like I had to write it as a sort of like a service.

And with this one, I already know, like all my clients coming to me, they’re already like a lot of them are, you know, they’ve been on the podcast or the email list, so they know, they know or don’t recommend fasting. Most of them have stopped it. So they know I’m going to recommend not fasting, but I feel like reaching more people in somewhat a controversial way because like, you know, it gets heads turning.

I’m hoping to reach more people because like I told you before, like every like especially during the heavy research part the last couple of months, every other day I’m like coming down and like telling my wife. Oh my God, I found more nonsense. Like more stuff. This can mess you up in the long term. Talking about, you know, osteoporosis, losing lean mass and how lean mass then can lead to frailty when you’re like 1890 and then the osteoporosis, the frailty, you’re then one fall, one trip or, you know, even like sitting down or like a bump in the car could like break a hip or fracture vertebrae, then you’re incapacitated in many cases.

So like these things like, I mean, these lizard people are they are playing the short game, the intermediate game, in the long game. So to me, what the what the most horrible aspect of this is, is that they, they got the people that don’t give a damn about their health. You got, you know, everything drugs, alcohol, all of it.

They’re poison food Doritos. So they got that group down pat and they’re getting monetized through the to the pharma system. The intermediate people are also getting screwed. So there’s there’s but there’s a lot of people that are coming up for air. They’re like, I gotta get get my health into my, my hands and get my family’s healthy to my own hands here.

So they’re screwing those kind of people. They’re playing the longer term game. So things like fasting, low carb diets, supplements like omega three, like so many health conscious people, take omega threes. Almost no benefit, probably all detriment to long term omega three supplementation. Going to have a chapter that on the book after this one. So they kind of their working on every single timeline or time length time span time period is and every single sort of category of the health, not the super health conscious person.

And then of course, the people that don’t give a damn. And of course those people are kind of they’re kind of screwed. But at the same time, we have to just really, really kind of reach the people that are into health but are simply, simply have been misled. They’ve been misinformed. And that’s kind of why that’s so important.

But yeah, after that, I have a bunch more in the longevity series coming up. All right. Well, thank you for taking the time to do this. I’m looking forward to posting it and sharing it around to the email list. And I also, I think I’m going to share this because I’ve started my own podcast. And the whole point of that podcast was to record conversations like this, which very rarely get, you know, recorded and shared.

So this will be shared on as many platforms as possible, including my own personal ones, just because it’s been a great conversation. Yeah. I want to say thank you for the help that you have given me in terms of letting me, you know, kind of really try your program because I think in the team because Kat had offered, okay, well, either me, you or Jeff, we can do this interview.

And I was like, I’ll do it, because I already have experience with the program to be able to actually, you know, dive into it. It’s it’s a whole different thing when somebody who’s just heard of the process that you do is asking you and talking to you about it, or somebody that’s been in it. So yeah, and I’ve given Katherine Jeff copies of my book, but it’s like, who has time to read books nowadays?

So they probably haven’t read it, but I don’t know if you’ve done. Audiobooks for your books. But like, yeah, my plan was once this next book is done, I’m going to get the other one with the same sort of narrators, kind of keep it to to the same voice. But that’s I, I’ve been very, very, progressing, procrastinating hard on that front.

But I know it’s so important because I’m mostly listening. I have like at this point, 200 audible audiobooks. I mostly just listen to all the books nowadays. It’s kind of unfortunate because your writing suffers. But now that I’m kind of coming up to like writing the actual first proper draft of the book, I’ve been reading more of my favorite authors because it’s it’s amazing.

Like when I read their stuff and I come back to my manuscript, I’m like my like a 12 year old dumb kid. Like, when I look at this, it feels like I’m a 12 year old dumb kid here. I think there’s definitely a value to audiobooks. For me personally, I’m writing a memoir about my life, and most of the audiobooks I have on audible are memoirs, and a lot of them are read by the authors.

And there’s there. I personally will always buy a book that’s read by the author, regardless of how they speak, over a book that is read by somebody random, because you can’t get the same connection to the story. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely, absolutely. That’s you just feel the, the energy and, and kind of the emotion around like the, the experience where whether it’s now in my case because there’s a lot less like personal and anecdotal stuff, it can be done.

I just need to find a sarcastic sounding enough guy, which is not. I personally think you would do a good job of narrating your own book, because the reality is, you can hear the emotion of the research that you’ve done come through when you talk about these things. So I’m just going to consider that. Who’s going to want to listen to some broken English Eastern European guy though, like this is for more like a American audience?

Well, here’s the thing. Like me personally, I don’t I don’t necessarily find your accent or the way that you speak to be annoying. You know, I’ve, I watched a lot of the videos and I was able to understand you clearly and watching the videos in your program, for example, they give you confidence in the plan that you get, because if you just deliver the text plan and that’s it.

Whereas like when you are doing the videos, you’re talking about a lot of your own experiences, you’re talking about the research, you know, you can you have more of that, like mind brain connection to what’s, you know, to what’s going on. And I think that’s a big part of why people resonate with people like Sean Baker and stuff.

Like No Shade, Deshaun Baker, but that man sounds like his vocal cords got ran through a meat grinder. But people watch him religiously because of the way because of the passion he has. You know. So I think I think consider it you know, I think a lot of us will judge ourselves in this, in this light. But the reality is your that, that using your real voice to convey your ideas, even if a lot of its research is, in my, my opinion, going to be more impactful than having somebody you know, I will consider it, even though I, I have a feeling it will it will be extremely painful to actually I, I know what

it’s like, like recording and then editing. I know how painful that would be. But like I will see we’ll see what I’ll, I’ll be doing Buffalo next week. So I’ll be like taking a, a week or so break from writing completely. So I will see. We’ll see how I appreciate the the advice. I may do it. You never know.

As somebody who trauma deemed her life story like most on HBO, like most people don’t realize that I was like 8 or 9. My school had this, like school wide news thing, and I was in the class that produced that, and I couldn’t listen to myself, even speak a script without crying and feeling nauseous in school. And I hear you like, I mean, I started podcast, I’ve I’ve edited videos with my voice in it.

I am not a fan of my voice. However, I’ve also realized that, like, people like to listen to me talk for whatever silly reason. So, I mean, our voice very rarely annoys other people as much as it annoys us. So that’s my wife.

My wife may not agree, but here’s the thing. You know, like debility to joke and the laughter and stuff like that. Like, that’s what makes a story magic. Like, the last thing I’ll say on this is I recently listen to an audible memoir, and the Lady’s story was not that, like, I wouldn’t say special, but like, it wasn’t that special.

She is the typical American loud mouth lady. That’s very dramatic. But the way in which she told her own story, you could feel the emotion. And she had the genius idea of having her family voice record things that they said to her. So like at one point, you have her dad sending her a voice message about how seeing her go through divorce broke him and he’s like in tears, right?

But man, like that, that way of doing it and just owning your voice and who you are. I think I think it always goes further. So totally I have like just from the previous book, because I was getting some some of the studies from the back today to look at, and I saw some parts where I had written some stuff like make like, people that know me, I know I’m like a mega sarcastic always like messing around, like almost like like this is this guy, like literally 12 years old.

Like this year we’re like, is he ever serious? So I have, like, all these passages in the book about how fasting will shrink your testicles, your balls, your webOS. And it’s like, are your are your are your testicles as big as tennis balls or perhaps those of your partner? Gross. It’s like like you. So I don’t think you’re right.

I don’t think a narrator will realize that’s how it sounds in my head. It’s like it’s not gross. It’s gross. You’re disgusting, you freak. But don’t worry. Fasting. Fasting is going to shrink your testicles some good 18%. Gonna shrink those pesky waves down to size. No problem, you know? Right. And you know. And it’s funny, like those 12 year old boy, relatable comments are exactly that.

They’re relatable. They’re going to cause, like, too many of these health books try to be too professional and then nobody wants to read them. So, you know, it sounds like you’re striking that balance more than you realize. And I’m just saying use it as your superpower. Exactly like the balance. So a lot of so the way nonfiction, especially health nonfiction, the way they balance it is either you have like this narcissistic sort of health influencer constantly talking about their own stuff, which I don’t personally like, to be honest with you.

Or then you have like these sort of patronizing, sort of corny, cheesy stories about specific people, case studies, which I think is better, especially if you do it right, if it’s not like just the same sort of cookie cutter thing that all the other books are, they’re being forced to do that by the, the publishers. So my, I suppose my, the way I do it is like, I, I bring you to the edge of boring you to death with like some what some study found, and then I whack you with like, some, like, straight up retarded comment or two.

And like, I’ve had people tell me like I, there’s literally like places where, like, I’m reading and like, you catch me by surprise and I just like, laugh out loud because it’s like some crazy nonsense. You see, you just crawl, bard, after the, you know, the, the dry part. So like, that would be my strategy. It’s not gonna it’s not gonna sell millions of books.

But I always think I’d rather be my authentic self. And if anybody doesn’t like it, that does me a favor, because then I keep the people that gravitate to to me, people that actually like me and, you know, and the nice thing is that a lot of these people are from the, the, you know, the freedom community. So I can talk about like cut, poison, burn and like how, you know, ignorant, conventional doctors are without sort of fear that someone would be like, oh, this guy is not even a doctor.

I’m not even going to read this book type thing. I will repel those people to begin with. And then only kind of my people will be. So I feel like and and I think you, you, you, you practice you, you kind of live this very well. You be yourself and then you will attract the people that are supposed to be attracted to you, as opposed to putting on airs and then wondering why.

Oh my friends, I don’t actually like my friends, or my friends are not liking me and like we just do. And I love this with you on community is because most people, from what I’ve seen going there, we are our authentic selves and you’re not going to like everybody. But it also means that when you like somebody and there’s some kind of relationship that forms, we create these stronger bonds, like I’ve been every time I go to an archipelago for the last three years, and even being at the The Land event in April, I make friends where this.

I know these will be lasting friendships for years, maybe potentially for a lifetime ahead. So that’s the beautiful thing I love about an archipelago. And you know, again, why it’s so I think it’s important for us to attract these people in one place because we’re authentic. We’re done with the bullshit. We’re done with the bullshit. We’re there to just be ourselves and share what we’ve learned.

And that’s another beautiful aspect of it, is everybody has been done different rabbit holes. So you learn something from everybody, no matter how young, how old or how different from you. So anyway, I waffle well, sorry it started hailing here, which is why I looked outside like. But I was actually thinking, you know, part of why it took me so long to start my personal podcast is because I couldn’t think of anything appropriate to call it.

And people were like, oh, call it Miranda’s web and blah blah. I’m like, dad is nice, right? But that’s not me. Whereas like, finally I was like, I just have to settle on it and call it what I want to call it. Which was, what the fuck was that? Because first off, that’s my response to my life. But also the idea is to have these conversations that leave you mind blown and leave you go, okay, what the fuck was that?

You know, and it’s a filter. And then certain people that are put off by four letter words, they’re not going to come around. Right. The point isn’t and I and I appreciate that you’re the same way. The point is not to reach everybody. The point is to reach people who where it’s going to matter. So I think we’re going to end on that.

I really, really enjoyed this conversation again, Kristen, thank you. And I’ll be sad to not be in Serbia in person for labor. Coco but I do know I am happy to have you be a part of that event. Yeah. Thank you so much. I really, really appreciate you, Miranda. Thank you for this. Well, you have a good rest of your day.

I’m going to go make sure that my house is not being rained in, because I have a lot of open doors right now. All right.

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